The Jimmy Akin Podcast | Episode 054 (October 6, 2025)

In this episode of The Jimmy Akin Podcast, Jimmy dives into a debate with Lutheran pastor Jordan Cooper on praying to saints! He dismantles Cooper’s claim that it implies saints are “almost omniscient,” exposing logical flaws and offering a steelman argument. With sharp wit, Jimmy blends Scripture, theology, and science—citing Near-Death Experiences and biblical insights—to defend Catholic teaching. Expect a lively, thought-provoking clash of ideas that challenges assumptions and invites listeners to rethink the saints’ role in prayer.

Timecodes
00:00 – Coming Up
00:17 – Intro
00:36 – 1 Introducing Jordan Cooper
01:24 – 2 The Intercession of the Saints
02:57 – 3 Asking for Their Intercession
07:40 – 4 Logical Nonsense
10:52 – 5 Steelmaning Jordan Cooper
13:41 – 6 Church Teaching & Theological Opinion
14:56 –7 How Do Requests for Intercession Work?
19:32 –8 What’s the Problem?
23:16 – 9 Can God Give This Ability?
26:24 – 10 If I Were Protestant . . .
30:09 – 11 What About Jesus?
33:52 – 12 Christ Our Advocate
35:53 – 13 We Will Be Like Who?
38:31 – 14 Science & the Afterlife
44:14 –15 Conclusion
46:51 – Closing/Outro
47:52 – End